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Re:Tactical manuvers with the Viper.

  •  06-02-1999, 11:15 PM

    Re:Tactical manuvers with the Viper.

    *** Posted by Ice ***
    Hello Rapier,

    Well what can i say, you said it all.
    It's very nice that you can use real live tactics in a sim as Falcon 4. That's the big disadvantage of F22, it's to SF.
    I got Falcon 4 myself but my system isn't up to it so have to be patient untill i get a better sust.
    It's even a little frustrating to have to wait for it to happen, but i still got my hands full on F22.
    Oke so let's start the talks about tactics again, which you and Run did so many times before with, snake i think it was.
    The merge, the one thing that, very often, decides what the outcome will be of the fight.
    In the F22 the best way to sart the turn is with full brakes, a little Thrust Vectoring to start the turn and the speed around 300. With the TV the speed will bleed of untill around 250, that's the speed to continue the turn with with 6.4 G's on the clock.
    Make a role and come out on top the right way up. Got 280 knts left while engaging the enemy.

    That's how it works with the F22, never the same though but it's a start.
    To bad i'm not flying the Falcon already, would be much easier to talk about tactics wenn flying the same aircraft, or must i say, flying the same sim.
    Let me know what you think of this merge, and what you would do in the Facon wen going head to head with the enemy, one thing that will never happen in real combat.

    Kind regards ICE.



    [Hi,

    I think your comments are interesting so please feel free to contribute any info you wish regarding tactics, I like to learn and understand what other people have learned in todays sim's and whether they have adopted real life tactics when using them. For me personally when using real life tactics I find it gives me a kind of psycological advantage as well as a tactical advantage. You said that some real life tactics are not always used in sims. I have found using real life tactics to be a huge advantage. If you are playing F22ADF/TAW game it's true that you will not use so many combat tactics because it's a Stealth Aircraft so you wont need to do so much with this aircraft because it can handle itself very well, saying this when I completed F22 ADF I still had to learn the similar tactics that todays stealth pilots use. Falcon 4 is especially keen on the pilot adopting real life tactics as I have found that it is realistic enough that you have to plan the mission very well or you will keep getting shot down. I have been practicing SAM avoidance in F4 with some surprising results using real life tactical manuvers, though some you are right you will not have to use. The beauty of all of this is as sim's become more realistic we have to learn and adapt to each unique situation with new and exiting tactic's. It's all relative and interesting in todays sim's. Ok if your playing around with F-16 multirole then you can appretiate the fun side of things meaning you hardly use any real life tactics as it's more of an arcadey sort of game, but it's fun none the less. When you say every sim has it's own reaction to certain manuvers I can understand this and it underlines what I was saying earlier, at the end of it all you can keep playing the latest sim's out there and use and develop what you have learned from previous experiences. It's also good that you talk with fellow squadies because this also happens in the real world, discussing ideas and tactics and discussing tactics which they have improved upon or found to be more useful in a certain situation.

    Kind Regards

    Rapier

    ]
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