*** Posted by TIGER ***
Hi Rapier
First of all the SU27 Flanker it's not a thrust vectoring machine.
The thrust vect. system was introduced to SU37.
And about Cobra maneuver:
1. Cobra maneuver:
It was first performed by the russian pilot Pugaciov. Second the SU27 don't uses thrust vect. system.
At speeds between 400-500 km/h the pilot pulls the nose around 80-110' and flies for 3-4 seconds.
2. Super Cobra maneuver:
It was performed by an SU37 which uses a thrust vect. system.
The maneuver consists in:
At speeds bet. 400-500 km/h the pilot pulls the nose around 140' and flies for 7-8 seconds.
Yes I'll give more inf. about SU27.
Here in Romania we are specialised in MIG29 and SU27.
I think you know that.
Try in F4 to fly at a speed around 350 kts at 7g and you'll do fine. Why 350 and not 400? because you need a smaller speed for a smaller turn radius.
By the way where are you from?
What are you studying?

TIGER


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Hi Tiger,

Yep the SU-27 is a great aircraft and I also admire Russian planes so if you've got any info about this plane I would'nt mind you letting me know about it because I dont know much about it to be honest. Your right also that you dont have to pull 9G's in the SU to get the best turn rate, but dont forget it's a thrust vectoring machine so I think the SU system helps the pilot sustain less G than necessary and achieving a good turn. You will probably know more about that then me, but it is interesting. The F-16 as you know does not have thrust vectoring (except for the F-16XL) so the pilot will have to pull slightly more than the SU to get a good turn. Come to think about it you have raised an interesting point. Do you know what G the F-16 will be pulling through it's best turn cycle?

Regards

Rapier]