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> You are comparing Amraams to Adders. The Adder BVR missile haven't
> been exported to Germany so how would the German pilots know if it's
> worse or better than the Amraam?
These Luftwaffe pilots 73rd Fighter Squadron had experience with the
Adder from what they were saying! Whether they went to the Soviet Union
or the Luftwaffe did have Adders, these pilots spoke with authority! As
of the taping of the program only four of the original twenty-five
pilots remain with the squadron. From what these Luftwaffe pilots were
saying, the performance of the Mig.-29 (I don't know which model) was
about the same as the F/A-18C. The Mig.-29 has a little better thrust
to weight ratio and the F/A-18C has a little better slow speed per-
formance. That if there is an edge in performance, it goes to the
Mig.-29. The avionics and user friendliness goes to the F/A-18C. No
matter what the specs say, the radar/weapon system on the Mig.-29 is
not close to what it is specified to be while, the F/A-18 is.
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> Aim-9X haven't entered production yet so its performance can change,
> but from what I know, it has a range of 15km, while the AA-11 has a
> range of 20 to 30km
No the Sidewinder AIM-9X has not entered production but from what is
known, in close combat it more closely matches the know specs. The
next generation of US fighter/bombers will be so stealthy that the
majority of air battles will be BVR! While other aircraft will be
detected by by the F-22 or F-35 at long range while their opponents
will have to be closer than twenty miles to detect the US aircraft!

> What you hear on Discovery isn't always true
You are very correct there!! Most of what I accepted as being valid
was things the pilots said, not what the narator said! When pilots
get together from two different nations and egos are on the line,
their "bull s**t" tends to be set aside after the initial meetings.
The US Navy flew the eight F/A-18Cs from Oceana NAS, Virginia, USA to
Laage, Germany along with one hundred and fifty support personnel. US
Naval Air Intelligence along with the tactics people of the US Naval
Air Force, were deadly serious about this exchange between these two
squadrons. The US Government spent a lot of money on this excercise.
They expect "accurate" results!!

> P.S. Excouse me, English is my second language
There is no need to apologize, if I spoke your language there would
be very little chance of mis-interpetation! Your English is just
fine!

Adrian

So what were the "accurate" results from the f/a-18 v mig-29 engagments then?